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		<title>By: sazol</title>
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		<dc:creator>sazol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do any good work,then you will get a good prize from ALLAH.and if you do any bad work ,then you will get a bad prize from ALLAH.i think you know better what is good or bad.

You think ,only those peoples (mollah) have duty to protest anty islamic activities.We all should do it.On the other hand we should also respect other religious´s.Its not my opinion.I have given this ouotation from holly quran.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do any good work,then you will get a good prize from ALLAH.and if you do any bad work ,then you will get a bad prize from ALLAH.i think you know better what is good or bad.</p>
<p>You think ,only those peoples (mollah) have duty to protest anty islamic activities.We all should do it.On the other hand we should also respect other religious´s.Its not my opinion.I have given this ouotation from holly quran.</p>
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		<title>By: Spanish Pundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mo cartoons update: Nigeria killings and Turkish hackers - Caricaturas de Mahoma (reloaded) asesinatos en Nigeria y hackers turcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spanish Pundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mo cartoons update: Nigeria killings and Turkish hackers - Caricaturas de Mahoma (reloaded) asesinatos en Nigeria y hackers turcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] insulting the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his wives and its comparison of the Ka?aba in Mecca to a brothel. &lt; &#8212; click here for the story behind the accusation.] The demonstration at the Bangladeshi [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] insulting the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his wives and its comparison of the Ka?aba in Mecca to a brothel. &lt; &#8212; click here for the story behind the accusation.] The demonstration at the Bangladeshi [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mo cat protests</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo cat protests</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] insulting the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his wives and its comparison of the Ka&#8217;aba in Mecca to a brothel. &lt; --- click here for the real story The demonstration at the Bangladeshi embassy in London is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] insulting the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his wives and its comparison of the Ka&#8217;aba in Mecca to a brothel. &lt; &#8212; click here for the real story The demonstration at the Bangladeshi embassy in London is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Iconus Clustus</title>
		<link>http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/09/20/attack-against-freedom-of-speech-bangladesh-cartoon-controversy-update/comment-page-1/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Iconus Clustus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The previous governments (ones that are serving as scapegoats now), are all blamed by the people (at least by the people who stood up for a secular democracy and still dare to speak about it and for it) for having fallen from the ideals set forth in the original constitution. SECULARISM that protected the freedom of religions [contrary to what the extremists believe and understand of the term secularism], was the very basis of that constitution, of those ideals based on which the country was born and took its first few faltering steps. But, one government after the other, slowly but surely, caved in - caved in to who they fought against!!! The nation plundered from Joy Bangla to Khodahafiz to Allah hafiz. From secularism to Bismillah in the beginning, and then entrusting all on Allah right in the constitution! From war criminals to having them run amock, do politics, and even become MPs, ministers - hell, even the Prime Minister!!!

There was a time when people thought of BNP as the party doing all of the damage - through rehabilitation of anti-Bangladesh forces, aligning with the Islamic countries, bringing about the first hack in the constitution (Bismillahir Rahmanur Rahim in the constitution), letting the Jamaaties do politics, making Shah Aziz the PM, etc. Well, folks - we all know that is not the complete picture. AL, slowly but surely, followed the same suit. Instead of becoming stronger over the years to resist what we faught against during the pre-liberation years, Al became weaker. Though there was no change brought about within the constitution itself during Bongobondhu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous governments (ones that are serving as scapegoats now), are all blamed by the people (at least by the people who stood up for a secular democracy and still dare to speak about it and for it) for having fallen from the ideals set forth in the original constitution. SECULARISM that protected the freedom of religions [contrary to what the extremists believe and understand of the term secularism], was the very basis of that constitution, of those ideals based on which the country was born and took its first few faltering steps. But, one government after the other, slowly but surely, caved in &#8211; caved in to who they fought against!!! The nation plundered from Joy Bangla to Khodahafiz to Allah hafiz. From secularism to Bismillah in the beginning, and then entrusting all on Allah right in the constitution! From war criminals to having them run amock, do politics, and even become MPs, ministers &#8211; hell, even the Prime Minister!!!</p>
<p>There was a time when people thought of BNP as the party doing all of the damage &#8211; through rehabilitation of anti-Bangladesh forces, aligning with the Islamic countries, bringing about the first hack in the constitution (Bismillahir Rahmanur Rahim in the constitution), letting the Jamaaties do politics, making Shah Aziz the PM, etc. Well, folks &#8211; we all know that is not the complete picture. AL, slowly but surely, followed the same suit. Instead of becoming stronger over the years to resist what we faught against during the pre-liberation years, Al became weaker. Though there was no change brought about within the constitution itself during Bongobondhu</p>
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		<title>By: Mash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth Hurts, Motiur Rahman, as a respected editor of the largest Bengali language daily knows full well the value of freedom of speech, press and expression. He must also realize that bending to pressure from extremists to apologize for this cartoon will only bring Bangladesh closer to the &quot;clutches of corruption, religious militancy and violence&quot; that you say he was trying to prevent. This is even more alarming because PA has been such a strong progressive voice against extremism.

The fact that the cartoonist and his sub-editor were thrown to the dogs; the fact that the cartoonist was jailed and no lawyer dared to defend him; the fact that not a single newspaper dared to speak out against the utter nonsense of the charge; and the fact that the military government itself has fueled this by declaring the cartoon as part of a &quot;conspiracy&quot; are all strong indications that extremists have succeeded in creating a climate of fear.

So, E-BD is not engaging in character assasination of Motiur Rahman. I personally am lamenting his predicament, and by extension, the predicament of all of Bangladesh. You simply cannot appease Islamists by caving to their increasingly irrational demands. Their stated goal is not to have a pluralistic society. The goal of groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir, explicitly stated, is to do away with the constitution of Bangladesh. That, my friend, is anti-state activity - plain and simple. The question then is, while they zealously arrested university professors for &quot;anti-state activites&quot;, why is the military government not defending the constitution and going after these people on anti-state activities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth Hurts, Motiur Rahman, as a respected editor of the largest Bengali language daily knows full well the value of freedom of speech, press and expression. He must also realize that bending to pressure from extremists to apologize for this cartoon will only bring Bangladesh closer to the &#8220;clutches of corruption, religious militancy and violence&#8221; that you say he was trying to prevent. This is even more alarming because PA has been such a strong progressive voice against extremism.</p>
<p>The fact that the cartoonist and his sub-editor were thrown to the dogs; the fact that the cartoonist was jailed and no lawyer dared to defend him; the fact that not a single newspaper dared to speak out against the utter nonsense of the charge; and the fact that the military government itself has fueled this by declaring the cartoon as part of a &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; are all strong indications that extremists have succeeded in creating a climate of fear.</p>
<p>So, E-BD is not engaging in character assasination of Motiur Rahman. I personally am lamenting his predicament, and by extension, the predicament of all of Bangladesh. You simply cannot appease Islamists by caving to their increasingly irrational demands. Their stated goal is not to have a pluralistic society. The goal of groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir, explicitly stated, is to do away with the constitution of Bangladesh. That, my friend, is anti-state activity &#8211; plain and simple. The question then is, while they zealously arrested university professors for &#8220;anti-state activites&#8221;, why is the military government not defending the constitution and going after these people on anti-state activities?</p>
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		<title>By: Rezwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rezwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;what is E-B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>what is E-B</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Serious Golmal &#187; Muhammad cat: Clerical Hypocrisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serious Golmal &#187; Muhammad cat: Clerical Hypocrisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] E-Bangladesh Dristipat here and here Mash In the Middle of Nowhere Dhaka Shohor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Truth Hurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As E-Bangladesh claims to uphold the highest levels of &quot;holier than thou&quot; ethics, I would humbly request them to correct the following line: Motiur Rahman, Editor of Prothom Alo and a very well regarded, conscientious and patriotic member of the civil society, was NOT knee bent, when he was seeking apology in the tripartite meeting. One wonders, what is E-BD&#039;s intention to inaccurately claim that Mr. Rahman was apologizing knee-bent? Isn&#039;t this an attempt at character assassination and humiliating Mr. Rahman? Mr. Rahman was merely trying to prevent anarchy and protect peace in the country for the greater objective of establishing a modern Bangladesh free from clutches of corruption, religious militancy and violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As E-Bangladesh claims to uphold the highest levels of &#8220;holier than thou&#8221; ethics, I would humbly request them to correct the following line: Motiur Rahman, Editor of Prothom Alo and a very well regarded, conscientious and patriotic member of the civil society, was NOT knee bent, when he was seeking apology in the tripartite meeting. One wonders, what is E-BD&#8217;s intention to inaccurately claim that Mr. Rahman was apologizing knee-bent? Isn&#8217;t this an attempt at character assassination and humiliating Mr. Rahman? Mr. Rahman was merely trying to prevent anarchy and protect peace in the country for the greater objective of establishing a modern Bangladesh free from clutches of corruption, religious militancy and violence.</p>
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		<title>By: iconus.clustus</title>
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		<dc:creator>iconus.clustus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sagor:&lt;/strong&gt;

If the CTG (aka Bar. Moinul) didn&#039;t ban (Aplin and Saptahik 2000 Eid issue) and arrest the cartoonist, and Motiur Rahman didn&#039;t sack his little-mag&#039;s editior and complied with CTG&#039;s pronouncements with absolutely no reservations... nothing would have happended. Some Moulana&#039;s would have complained, as they always do... [they don&#039;t find it decent to see women with sleevelesses while we see that often on the streets of Dhaka - the first chance they get - they will try to do something about it or some other issue], but it would have remained at that level. It was the CTG that effectively fuelled it furhter, instead of letting it die out. The Khatib my friend, said what he said because all of this demands were met... he was the single winner in this battle to crush dissident voices... he has effectively done it, with the aid of none other than the CTG itself. So, what are you saying when you say that they have handled it pretty well?!?!

And about literacy and fanaticism... well, I don&#039;t quite agree. Real fanatics are the leaders... who are quite literate. The rest of the people, the followers, are just that - the followers. They are not really fanatics, but they are almost coerced into it... note: most of the madrasa goers are from very poor families... families give their sons and daughters to the madrasas not because they are inclined toward religious teachings, but because they are poor and cannot take care of their children themselves.

&lt;strong&gt;Atunu #9,&lt;/strong&gt;

Do you have something against the NRBs? Do you have something against e-activism? Do you think all the people writing and sharing their points of views are all Deshi expats?

It seems so. But, let me point this out to you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sagor:</strong></p>
<p>If the CTG (aka Bar. Moinul) didn&#8217;t ban (Aplin and Saptahik 2000 Eid issue) and arrest the cartoonist, and Motiur Rahman didn&#8217;t sack his little-mag&#8217;s editior and complied with CTG&#8217;s pronouncements with absolutely no reservations&#8230; nothing would have happended. Some Moulana&#8217;s would have complained, as they always do&#8230; [they don't find it decent to see women with sleevelesses while we see that often on the streets of Dhaka - the first chance they get - they will try to do something about it or some other issue], but it would have remained at that level. It was the CTG that effectively fuelled it furhter, instead of letting it die out. The Khatib my friend, said what he said because all of this demands were met&#8230; he was the single winner in this battle to crush dissident voices&#8230; he has effectively done it, with the aid of none other than the CTG itself. So, what are you saying when you say that they have handled it pretty well?!?!</p>
<p>And about literacy and fanaticism&#8230; well, I don&#8217;t quite agree. Real fanatics are the leaders&#8230; who are quite literate. The rest of the people, the followers, are just that &#8211; the followers. They are not really fanatics, but they are almost coerced into it&#8230; note: most of the madrasa goers are from very poor families&#8230; families give their sons and daughters to the madrasas not because they are inclined toward religious teachings, but because they are poor and cannot take care of their children themselves.</p>
<p><strong>Atunu #9,</strong></p>
<p>Do you have something against the NRBs? Do you have something against e-activism? Do you think all the people writing and sharing their points of views are all Deshi expats?</p>
<p>It seems so. But, let me point this out to you</p>
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		<title>By: Sagor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A portion of Bangladeshi Muslims are fanatic. They are fanatic because they are not well educated on Islam. What I see this mawlana&#039;s are trying to solve this crisis. Last night Khatib Baitul Makarram gave statement in BTV, requesting all not to go for any nausense activities on this issue.We must appreciate them. Same way Br Mainul also tried to people that Matiur Rahman didnot want to disgrace Islami sentiment. I think CTG took some correct step to settle this issue. We may criticise fanatic people but CTG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A portion of Bangladeshi Muslims are fanatic. They are fanatic because they are not well educated on Islam. What I see this mawlana&#8217;s are trying to solve this crisis. Last night Khatib Baitul Makarram gave statement in BTV, requesting all not to go for any nausense activities on this issue.We must appreciate them. Same way Br Mainul also tried to people that Matiur Rahman didnot want to disgrace Islami sentiment. I think CTG took some correct step to settle this issue. We may criticise fanatic people but CTG.</p>
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